{"id":103672,"date":"2021-04-26T19:40:06","date_gmt":"2021-04-26T19:40:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/index.php\/building-the-heathkit-cr-1-crystal-radio-2\/"},"modified":"2023-01-17T01:05:10","modified_gmt":"2023-01-17T01:05:10","slug":"n5ese-rf-probe-construction","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/index.php\/n5ese-rf-probe-construction\/","title":{"rendered":"N5ESE RF Probe Construction"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-vivid-red-color has-text-color\"><strong>Perfect for measuring the output of QRP oscillators<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<center><d3><a style=\"color:Tomato;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/index.php\/my-projects\/\">Return To Ham Radio Projects<\/a><\/d3><\/center><br><br>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">N5ESE RF Probe Construction<\/mark><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-layout-1 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5eseworking-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"660\" src=\"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5eseworking-1-1024x660.jpg\" alt=\"N5ESE RF Probe\" class=\"wp-image-103684\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5eseworking-1-1024x660.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5eseworking-1-300x193.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5eseworking-1-768x495.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5eseworking-1-690x445.jpg 690w, https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5eseworking-1-980x631.jpg 980w, https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5eseworking-1.jpg 1299w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>N5ESE RF Probe<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019ve been building various oscillators recently and I needed a way to measure their RF output<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Luckily, a nice circuit for this is available on the Net, and it includes background on the circuit, and a build article<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>N5ESE\u2019s website has an RF Probe Circuit and build article &#8211; N5ese RF Probe Page<br>The circuit is basic and the probe&#8217;s read the RF AC Voltage, the circuit converts the AC RF to DC, and the multimeter displays the DC voltage, allowing for a conversion to Watts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Although the circuit is simple, it is accurate, the limit of the circuit is the IN34A used to convert the RF to DC, any reading on the multimeter under 1\/4 volt should be treated with caution, above 1\/4 volt should be accurate<br>Perfect for measuring the output of QRP oscillators<br>RF Probe Circuit<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"716\" height=\"276\" src=\"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/rf_probe_schem.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-103675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/rf_probe_schem.jpg 716w, https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/rf_probe_schem-300x116.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/rf_probe_schem-690x266.jpg 690w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 716px) 100vw, 716px\" \/><figcaption>RF Probe Schematic<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I decided to build the circuit in an Altoids Tin, with jacks for the probe and the multimeter connections<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I chose the left side of the Tin for the probe connection, and mounted a BNC in the left end<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I chose a probe cable to break out the BNC connector to 2 cables, 1 for the probe(center) and 1 for ground(shield)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-layout-2 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5esewired-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"415\" height=\"245\" 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connect to the multimeter<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I though this would allow more versatility on hookup, and less wire mess when not in use<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-layout-4 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5escabling.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"533\" height=\"306\" src=\"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5escabling.jpg\" alt=\"N5ESE Circuit Layout\" class=\"wp-image-103679\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5escabling.jpg 533w, https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5escabling-300x172.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 533px) 100vw, 533px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>N5ESE Circuit Layout<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>To simplify construction, I installed 2 small pads of circuit board to mount the components in the middle of the Altoids Tin<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This allowed me to mount the 1N31 diode between the pads, and then connect each pad corresponding end points, greatly simplifying construction<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-layout-5 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"415\" height=\"245\" src=\"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5esewired.jpg\" alt=\"N5ESE Circuit Layout\" class=\"wp-image-103680\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5esewired.jpg 415w, https:\/\/www.snapwhole.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/projn5esewired-300x177.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 415px) 100vw, 415px\" \/><figcaption>N5ESE Circuit Layout<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\"><strong>So how does it work?<\/strong><\/mark><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Exactly as designed, attach the probe to a an oscillator and the DC equivalent voltage is displayed on the Multimeter<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-layout-6 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow 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